Agnosticism as a Spectator Sport
I watch the verbal sparring between theists (usually monotheist or some close variant) and atheists (usually the "don't believe" and the anti-theist variants) and as I sit on the agnostic bleachers (the "cannot know" variant), I find myself wondering about the interplay between the belief and the existence of any god or gods.
I lightly JP this process with some definitions:
- universe - the collection of all energy and matter to which we (potentially) have access
- exist - A thing can be said to exist if it can act or be acted upon. This includes, but is not limited to everything in the universe (as defined).
- god - An entity that can choose to control at least one aspect of the universe.
- belief - A mentally held construct of some truth, whether grounded or not. Not a knowledge claim.
- theist - An entity that holds a belief that at least one god exists.
- atheist - An entity that holds no belief about the existence of gods.
- antitheist - An entity that holds a belief that no gods exist.
Belief Without God(s)
Suppose no god exists -- the theist's belief is false and the antitheist's belief is true.
This might lead to some paradox if we hold to a truly "free will". By the definitions provided, we could be considered a god and therefore would exist and invalidate this supposition.
Belief With God(s)
Suppose at least one god exists -- the theist's belief is true and the antitheist's belief is false.
The existence of a god being in concordance with a belief that a god exists does not make any other claims about that god; the breadth and limits of the control that the god may choose to exercise are another consideration beyond existing.
- One Omni-God - This one god controls everything.
- One Supreme God (with 0 or more lesser gods) - One god controls everything but may delegate to others
- Pantheon - collections of gods who collectively control aspects of the universe. A pantheon could be directed by a supreme god.
- Belief Begotten God(s) - gods that exist as a direct result of belief. The gods that people believe in come to exist and fulfill the details of the belief -- the breadth and limits of control. A kind of collective force of will to shape the universe. (The core concept of Neil Gaiman's "American Gods"
Who cares?
From the human perspective, either way, we just go through life making (what feels like) choices.
From a god perspective (if any exist), the god or gods will go on making their choices for their reasons. Perhaps these choices are made with our intercession, or perhaps our pleas are ignored.
The whole point I am stalking here is that if god(s) exist, is it only the us who believes? Does everyone need to be a Claude Hooper Bukowski? Maybe not, but if no god believes in us -- acts with regard to our persons -- we may as well be in the position of there being no gods since we are irrelevant to them. And maybe if there is at least one god, then at least one god believes in antitheists despite (to spite?) the antitheist position.
But what do I know?
(These thoughts are subject to change.)